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Post by Neo Nibu on Nov 20, 2012 17:08:46 GMT -5
So brings the end of the TK Federation, the 5th Republic to be reborn in the Sixth Society! (Name may evolve) All old Federation Boards can now be found here; travkharv.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=ro6&action=display&thread=620As some of you may know from the RMB discussion and via TG, we will be doing some reorganizing over the coming months to establish a new government and a more actively functioning forum and region life. We are still working out exactly what we wana do, but I plan to get into doing defender missions / military operations again down the line. My idea would include making use of TK as the jumping point and base of operations. The Sixth Society will have a new flag, along with an updated WFE to match. Additionally we hope this will include the re-establishment of an active forum with the causal elements like rpg at it's core. I have set up a temporary government layout to be further define and properly legislated in the coming month. Please feel free to commit and make suggestions here.
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Post by austinset on Nov 20, 2012 18:08:19 GMT -5
Well, it's about time we start a new era, so i think the chain of command should go like this
Emporer (Neo)
WA Delegate
Foreign relations minister
Military commander (including secret operations)
Domestic leader
The rest, idk, but we can probably come up with it.
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Post by Kardas on Nov 20, 2012 18:49:11 GMT -5
Also, we have a flag! The idea for this guy was born when Nibu added a ripple effect to the other flag. I said I'd flagify the flag so the ripple effect made more sense. So here it is! I want to make a Christmas version, but I haven't gotten around to it. Also, credits to Nibu for the good advice and the slight tweaking of the branches. Comments? One question on the Sixth Society: what do the new titles we've gotten mean?
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Post by Neo Nibu on Nov 20, 2012 19:08:43 GMT -5
Hey really great job again Kardas! When I updated the WFE, I included the new flag colors in the same descending order for the music lyric. Our new flag is just lovely, i'ma update it now. ;D Keep me posted on the Christmas / Winter one too. I was thinking a similar chain Austin, The current positions will likely shift a bit, "Caretaker" / "Sgt. Pepper" / Emperor / - Myself as Founder & Main Forum Admin, and Military commander "Lord Mayor" / WA Delegate - Kardas running regional/Domestic affairs & forum / RPG Chief Foreign relations minister will be needed, possibly other positions in the future. I have note people from our core senior forum oriented group as "Lord Admirals", these are temporary until we outline everything further, where more official positions will go to active residents. The major plan is to make the core focus on Military and RPG, I think those have always been the major activity and funnest elements within the region. I plan on Establishing a multi-region defender group, which will be called, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Trav Khar as a late updating region is the perfect jumping point and will serve base camp for the new group. The "Sixth Society" name may evolve too, may which it to "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band", or more direct relation to it. Using TK region and forum for the groups main headquarters. I am hoping that through establishing the group here we will also draw some of them in for the RPG(s) and more general forum activities. Future positions will be more directly relate to the Sgt. Pepper's LHCB. Still wrapping up details elsewhere, will keep you guys posted.
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Post by austinset on Nov 20, 2012 23:10:26 GMT -5
1. I love the flag, nice. Maybe for Christmas make all the stripes green and red, and then add little decorations on the tree. 2.I would really like to get more involved in the group once again, and the chain of command is just you and Kardas (so far ). 3.I prefer The Sixth Society over all else, it shows that we've been through a lot as a group, and something like Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band just doesn't give the same feeling to it as The Sixth Society.
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Post by Cantiliahantan on Nov 21, 2012 16:09:43 GMT -5
id have to congrads kardas as well ...and perhaps we could talor the government postions to the people in them ...if this is going to me a military based deal that is ((lord admiral thing is pretty cool for a tempory deal .)) also perhaps we could keep the lord admirals say 2 as elected postions in charge or running the military and a similar system for domestic affairs as well as the normal minister postions and such in the very first region i was in they had a defense commander in soley of defending the region from attack and the sort maybe that could work as well ((just suggestions
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Post by Kardas on Nov 23, 2012 4:23:07 GMT -5
Hey guys, sorry this took a while, but I was busy writing a paper, but I have the CHRISTMAS FLAGS! I have two versions here: the first, with a wintery sky, was my idea. The second one follows Austin's suggestion. Comments? I considered adding a snowy cap to the tree, but out of lazyness and having no idea how I should make that look I decided against it. Also, I downloaded the ripple flag effect, so if you guys want, I can ripple the flags as well.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Nov 23, 2012 9:01:36 GMT -5
Hey those look great Kardas, I like the blue one better personally, more wintery feel to it, I set it as the regional flag. I'd be down to see what the ripple ones would look like too! @austin, the chain and command is me Kardas and the Lord Admirals like yourself, I have that position to those who have made contributions to the region and should have input on the reform. I only noted Kardas and me separately as we're the founder and delegate. I like the name the Sixth Society too, it will likely remain something along those lines. The defender group I set up will likely have a different name. Which there's been a hitch in the multi-region defender group so be more TK oriented army than multi-region. You guys have some good ideas for the reform, I'm still reworking some idea myself, I will try to have a more outlined idea to discuss in that area soon. I was also considering making the "TK Gold Coins" currency we have here play a bigger role since we never really did anything with it before. With RPG and military at the core, we can pay for military service plus you get paid per posted, so having the society government related and apart of that element might be fun. Might rename the currency. Maybe have it so you have to pay to run, like pay for a campaign, where either you can sponsor it with your own money, a parties money, or sponsored by some other group or person. Some correlation to wealth and position. Not really sure just yet, still elements at play.
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Post by kyraina on Nov 23, 2012 21:18:10 GMT -5
I think we should make the lord admirals like the house of lords in the uk then have a set of elected officals as well. We need to try to find a way to get people from the province regions to be active on the forum. also we need to do some recruiting. I can try to get some of my fellow air force coworkers to play and join this region
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Post by Cantiliahantan on Nov 25, 2012 20:20:55 GMT -5
great idea ....really like the hourse of lords bit...but nibu what about the rookie players of just new forum members? they may be discouraged by that i remember when i first got on NS and this forum ..i had next to no gold coins when first i tried to run for offices ... maybe if someone is not in a party where they can use it or no one will sponsor them or they want to run it by themselves ...there should be a sort of government aide program? the amount they use will be taken out of their account as made?
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Post by Neo Nibu on Nov 26, 2012 15:21:41 GMT -5
Yea great idea guys, we do a house of lords, made of up 'lords' earned in different ways,
Lord Major (Wa Delegate / Senior member)
Lord Caretaker (founder)
Lord "something" (The Richest TK member - discounting current lords)
Lord Admiral (Highest ranking Military)
Lord(s) "something else" (elected lords)
Maybe something like that?
Then we have the house of Lords be the law makers, by a majority vote.
To work in the currency element more we have it be like
"500" to run for the house of Lords "350" to propose a law "50" to approve a law
Then maybe you get "1000" for passing a law.
Baring in mind you get 15 per post, so 300 is only 20 posts. We can shifts these amounts if we want.
I don't think earning money even for new players will be too much of an issue, there will be alot of ways to earn it. (Military, recruiting, etc)
But I do think we should also do a tax on the rich to ensure new players an equal opportunity, say something like;
10% of their total income, every 2-3 months of the top 10 richest & active members.
Maybe another tax on the house of lords too.
All the tax money will go to a "government coffers" to be spent on government programs, including financing poorer and newer members.
We could also develop alternative sponsor programs, organizations or political parties to sponsor candidates or other programs.
This way we can create a unique economy with the currency.
Mind you this just a rough idea, the details can be shifted.
We could do a form Constitution of sorts out lining this once the details are sorted out, then allow the House of Lords develop further laws.
What do you guys think?
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Also, I think we need to make Trav Khar the core focus, as it is the majority of our old "protectorates" have fallen away, of the two still listed "The Capital Wasteland" is kinda in political limbo more of an unofficial territory at the moment i'm still working out the details.
We need to keep our regional message board(rmb) alive and active, that's the thing that attracts new people most.
We need to focus on Trav Khar, last time we had an active forum made up of a bunch of regions with inactive RMB, we were too spread out, i'd like to see TK built up to a large population rather than working to create and maintain any new protectorates.
Kyraina that be great if you could bring in new members via your air force friends. I highly recommend everyone try and bring in a friend from real life to join in.
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Post by Neo Nibu on Nov 26, 2012 17:51:24 GMT -5
Additionally I have made a new "Sixth Society" Skin, set it as the new default (appear while your guest). Check it out! We have many different forum skins created.
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Post by kyraina on Nov 27, 2012 21:20:03 GMT -5
I think we should have to sets of law making bodies how the US has the Senete and The House of Reps and the UK has the House of Lords and House of Commons and I think like major players should try to mainly focus on their nations in Trav Khar instead of making a ton of puppets.
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Post by Cantiliahantan on Nov 27, 2012 22:22:17 GMT -5
clap clap clap for you nibu great idea it seems pretty much put together already ...and i agree perhaps there could also be a sort of veterans club..or gentlemans club where the richest oldest and most active could hang out.. we could have two or three of the most rich as the owners right now thats nubu kardas and myself ... and all three would have to vote on new members of course the other active people like kyrania and austin would be given automatic entry ((as they are older and active )) ...and that sunds good on the lords part with the 4 seinor lords and the rest of the current lords would be plain lords ...then as kyrania said we could fill the other house with elected officals ...sorta like how the UN/ world assembly is set up .......i have a few other ideas put dont wanna be overbearing ...also we need somenody in charge of promoting activeness on the forum
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Post by Neo Nibu on Nov 29, 2012 19:35:01 GMT -5
Well I don't think we really have enough members to do a two sets of law makers. However we could include referendums.
Have the House of Lords be the main law makers, then have an alternative method be referendums where the entire region votes on it.
With the House of Lords I think we should allow for expansion having some seats dependent on regional population size.
Also in regards to "earning" currency, and other job-related functions we need, I was think we could do a "Department of Labor",
Where you'd be payed for regional work;
-Recruiting (TG new nations / feeder ads) -Creating New Forums Topics -Sponsoring forum games -Military missions (detags, liberation, defenses) -Serving as ambassador to ally region(s)
(more to come)
Have the leadership / law makers - Lords, required to spend money to preform their role, thus they will also have to do the recruiting and such to earn money.
Additionally I was thinking to change the name from "TK Gold Coins" to "Society Silver", I feel it flows nicely and matches our rebirth.
Also I was thinking to make posts worth 20, instead of the current 15, which would allow people to make more via posting also boosts people's current holdings.
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